Dynamic Advertising banned in San An
In recent weeks a host of changes have been announced in San Antonio, one of which has been to suspend dynamic advertising within the resort for the 2016 season.
This covers legal PR’s (public relations outside bars, clubs and restaurants) street ticket sellers and the colourful club parades which take place around the Sunset Strip and the West End.
There has been much celebration in some quarters in response to this decision and much resentment in others but today we are going to look at purely the potential financial impact of the decision for San Antonio, its businesses, the Council and the Government.
We did ask the Council for clarification on the number of licences issued in 2015 but so far have not received a reply, so instead (or until they respond) we are using a figure of 100 for two reasons:
- Firstly in speaking to various businesses this number is one everyone seems comfortable with.
- Secondly it makes the maths a lot easier to understand.
Now, each licence / jacket issued costs 2000 euros per year which is paid to the local council.
That’s 200’000 euros in lost revenue to the Council in 2016.
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Workers
Your average summer worker arrives fresh faced and bushy tailed into San Antonio usually late April to mid May and, on average, brings with them 1750 euros to help get them started. To cover their first month’s rent, first few week’s food, travelling expenses etc.
They then find a job, not necessarily a great job, but a job nevertheless that pays around 40 euros per day. This is enough to keep them going and to have an amazing summer. Per month they will earn 1120 euros.
They work for 4.5 months, again on average, but with the season the way it is this is a comfortable average.
On average, each person coming for a summer season earns 5040 euros. This is then spent on rent, food, travel as well as those all important days and nights out.
Add this to what they initially brought with them to the island of 1750 euros and you have a total of 6790 euros per person.
Although they have had an amazing summer, I would imagine very few take much if anything home with them but for arguments sake we shall say they take home 15% or 1018 euros.
This leaves 5772 euros which is spent across the summer in San Antonio. And after speaking to many workers it appears that workers rarely travel out of the town.
For the 100 workers this is over 577’000 euros now not spent in San Antonio, that’s 577’000 euros not being poured back into the local economy.
100 less jobs = 100 less rents + 100 less people eating 7 days a week. That’s 100 less people paying taxi fares or moped hire and 100 less people drinking and partying all summer long.
Employers
Now, onto the employers who each pay around 550 euros per month in social security to the Government per employee. Across the 4.5 month’s season that is 2475 euros.
Now each employee does have the right to claim Paro/Ayuda or the Dole to you and I during the winter season but being seasonal workers most do not claim it. However, again for arguments sake we shall say 20% do.
Out of the 2475 euros paid into the social security system 495 euros is paid out in Dole money over the winter leaving 1980 euros in the Government system.
From our 100 seasonal workers that’s also 198’000 euros less in the Government coffers.
577’200 euros in income has just been effectively wiped out from the local economy and and will be lost from San Antonio’s income during 2016.
The Council and Government through the licences / jackets and social security have also just lost 398’000 euros in revenue income.
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Conclusion
That’s close on 1’000’000 (1 million) euros that has effectively been lost from the economy of San Antonio for 2016 and this doesn’t even take into account any second tier taxes paid by those who earn an income from rents or other businesses that serve the seasonal workers and their spending within the town.
It does beg the question will this loss of income actually help San Antonio in the long term?
Less money in means less money being spent on security, policing, cleaning, promotion etc basically all the things San Antonio needs to address to make it more appealing to a wider and more diverse tourist model.
So has the move to ban legal PR’s in San Antonio been a costly mistake?
My thanks go to Nathan, Amanda and a host others for the information included to make this article as accurate and as fair as possible.
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Well done love this ?
This needs to go out to every social media rather than seeing other blogs that are crippling the town and workers.
Mix Mag already on these stories this morning I can only imagine that’s just the start
Good luck
This was posted on a local Ibiza Facebook group which we have translated.
No salaries paid by many we sell in San Antonio. Most of the benefits of these “workers” go off the island and here we have only the soprano and dirt in every corner.
In addition, it is well known that many of these “workers” do no Ampara notice (without being registered with social security, no contract, etc., are some other words that only those given to high as workers and pay the fee that marks the city council).
Depending on whether workers are legal or not, come to “B”, at least part of the salary (if you have one), many of them live in flats sotsarrendats and outside the legal framework. Many of them come in early season to seek his fortune with one hand in front and the other behind the economic valuation and that you are by far more than optimistic.
In exchange, they are given what they needed to do to stay, we have one of the causes of rising housing prices and making those who come to work if they so honored this island have real problems in finding live. I no longer speak of the known organized illegal parties often these “workers” and other problems caused, they are a real nuisance for the neighbors who have to suffer.
Actually, the four business and that business is not real for the local administration (remember that proceeds from the Social Security, income tax, etc., in cases in which it is paid, it will go directly into the coffers the central state), and here we have little, since the underlying figure to say that the council collects the license, remember that it is fictitious, since neither those who have drafted article nor myself know the real number.
Once again it appears as if the local’s are hell bent on confusing LEGAL, CONTRACTED and LICENSED PRs (that your article is very clearly talking about) with the ILLEGAL ones that you will be very very hard pushed to find anyone that wants.
Talking about what the illegal teams do and trying to justify putting all the tax paying legal ones out of business is ridiculous and actually pointless. Ask a bar paying a jacket, a contract and a wage if they like the bars next door sending 30 PR’s into town to stand where they like and hassle people? They do not.
If they perhaps read the article and understood that, just like the job of a bar man, PR is an actual job that people do professionally and make their living as it.
Try imagining each and every bar being told that they could no longer have bar staff and that they had to fit vending machines instead. There would be outcry.
We don’t want the teams of illegals, but we would like the option of a legal, contracted PR for our business as I don’t see how this job could be deemed illegal in the first place.
Thank you for the comments.
It is a very complex subject from all sides but I think the on going theme is no one wants the illegal Pr’s full stop but this move does not address the problem which in my opinion should of been addressed prior to banning legal pr’s if and only if by removing the legal ones problems still existed and even then other measures could have been put in place before an outright ban.
I understand a want / need to improve areas of San An but this just feels like a cheap easy shot not a solution to any of the problems, illegal pr’s, luky luky guys, women beggars and the like. If as I am led to believe it is just over 100 legal prs paid for each year that’s a lot of enforcement time for these issues that need addressing prior to anything else.
Once again a smoke screen well published on other blogs
It’s only certain bars complaining about this issue and so called drinks deals and yes illegal PRS they will stand up to be heard for sure
But it’s easy to see that things do seem to have got out of hand and latest blogs now saying the I quote “the Spanish haven’t got a clue”
Ok let’s look who’s complained on the issues in hand the a)older generation which yes thats sounds right and yes they should have a say
b)the bars yes the bars that even though for 10+ they’ve had PRS now they don’t seem fit to have them around there a nuisance there’s even old PR managers and DJs who wouldn’t be the people they are today without the PR on the street which may I add liking these statuses
And c) the tourist which is laughable I find it hard to believe the general tourist in the West End looking for the address for the town hall because being sold a cheaper ticket or drink in San Antonio
So leads to the assumption that a tin of worms have been opened by the English /Scots /Irish workforce in town
So them the “Spanish haven’t got a clue”
Right then
Some easy solutions here if you don’t want a drinks deal in your bar don’t have them that was easy step2)if you don’t want a PR then simple don’t buy the jackets but don’t protest about others that do step 3)here are other places to work if you don’t like what’s around you step 4) with the Brexit fast approaching does San An really need another problem because I don’t know if you see everyone has had enough so imagine in 2 years if the vote goes for “out” I don’t think PRS are going to be the least of problems the bar owners have got notice I said bar Owners yes I imagine this bars are leased and there only a manager just like you’d get back like in the UK
And to top things off as it stands San An people are now looking that this could be bad press if gets in the UK ,well tough it has
Do yourself a favour in the world we live in at the moment there are far worse places to live in id imagine people who live here would like to keep living here sort this out its stuff like this that’s screwed the UK up or I’d imagine there will be a lot more venues closing in 2017 and this season is supposed to be on record one of the best…….and look at it
Chat Shit Get Fined
Thank you for the comments
Hi there!
I’d like to clarify a few things that the article mentions, since some of them are wrong. I’ll give my opinion afterwards.
a) Dole system. In Spain we have two sorts of subsidized unemployment. I’ll refer to them in the spanish term since it makes a lot more sense (to me, at least :P ). First one being “ayuda” and the second one being “paro” (in spanish slang words). In order to qualify for the first one you need 6 months (as in 180 days) of actual work in Spain. If you comply, you are granted an “ayuda” (as in “help”) that amounts to ~420€/month for 6 months. This “ayuda” doesn’t consider your salary or anything else. If you have worked for 180 days: doesn’t have to be at once, you can work 3 months during a summer, and 3 months next summer, you have the right to get 6 x 420€ = 2520€. On the other hand, “paro” requires 12 months of work (360 days), and it gets you 4 months of 70% of your base salary (with a maximum). The trick is that “ayuda” can only be obtained 6 months at a time (IE if you have worked for 4 years non-stop and you ask for “ayuda” you only get paid 6 months; on the other hand, paro gives you up to 2 years of payment, so long as you have worked 3 times that much, IE 6 years), whereas paro has a maximum of 2 years.
What I’m saying is that you don’t get exactly the same as the taxes you have paid. It doesn’t work like that. High wages get a lot less than they pay, and low wages get a lot more. Also, social security also covers for health-care.
b) The only number that is accurate is that the Council will get 200.000€ less. But… seeing as they have been wasting money time after time, is it that bad to let our Council operate with less? To me it isn’t, but to each his own. Still, the other numbers are over-simplified. Anybody know anyone that has any sort of property that can’t find any tenants during the summer? I can’t. The whole island sits at 100% occupation throughout the summer, specially those properties that are offered for workers. On the other numbers… 100 people across 4.5 months make absolutely no difference in the long run. Its less than 0.1% of the local economy. Yes, those local business that have many PR’s living around will notice it. I know such people. But overall… nope, it will have 0 effect.
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About my opinion…
IMO, this isn’t something necessarily bad. As somebody who lives next to West End… it is a huge pain in the ass to move up and down through the street simply by the sheer amount of people who transit… but its even a bigger one when you are offered something at every simple corner. Maybe its because I go through West End several times a day… maybe its because of something else. But, in the end, it gets tiresome. Like really tiresome.
So, I think this is something good. As it lets people transit freely, because they aren’t harassed all day. At the same time, the moment you ban the legit pr’s… it becomes much easier for law enforcement to track and detain the illegal ones. Simply put… if pr-ing is illegal… the cops do not have to think, as anything they see is simply illegal. Before, police had far more important things to do to care whether a jacket was legal or not. And yes this is completely unfair for those who had their jackets legally hired but, overall, we do not have enough law enforcement to make them waste their times on such little details.
All in all, I believe this is the right call.
PS: San Antonio council can’t help West End. In the sense that they can’t policy the prices or the quality that the bars and pubs and clubs offer. And those alone will make or break West End, and nothing the council does will ever help. It boggles my mind that whenever I go to West End to have a drink (and I do so often) I need to go to a spanish pub in order to get something as simple as a Beefeater. Yup. Something as British as that can’t be found in at least half the pubs in the zone. Whisky? More or less the same. And you don’t want to ask for rum…
Thank you so much for a full explanation of the dole system I did research before writing this piece and tried to present it in an understandable way for the masses my point being a lot more is paid into the system by legally employed summer workers than is paid out.
I think point b applies the councils the world over sadly but that is the nature of councils and politics.
To your opinion do you believe the West End should remain in one capacity or another or has it had its time and should evolve or even return back to a more artisan / shop based area? I see the qualities in both, my concern is if by changing too much too fast you leave a void / vacuum which leads to a host of empty properties may result in less tourists visiting and a rapid decline could take place in a short space of time as opposed to changing things at a slower pace over a number of years.
I do understand the point on its easier for the police to enforce but having seen a story this week stating that drinking in the streets was also to be banned (all drinks water, soft and alcohol which is already illegal) was on the cards (turns out its not true) which was totally un-workable do you honestly feel the police will actually clamp down on Pr’s or that there will just be more illegal ones this year and although they will pay rent, food, transport etc it will be a lot more cash in hand based therefore even less tax will be paid?
Again thank you for the comments and education I am fascinated by the changes in San An from businesses residents and tourists alike and how the next few years will pan out for all concerned.
PS I adore San An as well as the whole island, I fell in love with the town the first time I visited many years ago, I have no doubt it will survive change and prosper like it has done for many centuries before and this is just a passing moment in its history and as they say today’s news is tomorrows fish and chip wrapper.
The first problem is that we can not separate the West End from the rest of the town, or the island, for that matter. We need to look at things with perspective. So, in order to make my points more understandable, I’ll try to dissect them:
a) Hotels and apartments. In the past decade we haven’t seen barely any new hotel or apartment opening (because it isn’t allowed). All in all, the number of hotel and apartment beds remain the same*, but there is something that has changed a lot, which isn’t the quantity, as stated, but it is quality. How many hotels have raised their standards? And where are such hotels located? Playa de’n Bossa is a different being than it was 10 years ago. And after Space ( tears) closes its doors this summer, it will be even more different. Santa Eulalia… heck even Santa Gertrudis got a city hotel now (4 stars). But what about San An? Did we see any hotel improvements? I believe they were working on Palmira and… what else? We still have the same shitty apartments with no aircon or nothing at the same price. The “pensiones” (no idea for the english word) are the same as when they were built, 30 years ago.
b) Clubs and restaurants. In the past decade we have also seen an incredible amount of changes. The word “beach club” is a good one to summarize many of them. For those of us that have been living in Ibiza for some time (I was born here, and I’ve lived all my life next to West End), we all understand the word “Chiringuito”. The typical ibicenco-family owned restaurant that had good food, decent service and wasn’t very pricey. Yes, it wasn’t an etiquette business but it didn’t try to be. And, the way things are going, we will probably need to use our memory in a few years if we want to experience them again. My point being: things are changing, and they are going up. High-end restaurants are getting very “normal” in Ibiza town (specially in the harbour area), but in San An we have the same we always had. I believe Sa Capella is still open, but still, my point remains.
c) Yachting. I know that this industry is not well known for most… but suffice to say that Ibiza has the most expensive yacht clubs in the world. Bar none. Yes, Monaco doesn’t hold a candle if we compare their prices against ours for high-season stays… except for the Gran Prix week. Other than that, nothing. Those who don’t know wouldn’t believe the kind of people that come here, privately, and that they keep increasing their reservations summer after summer. I’m talking about superyachts (starting at 30mts)… but Ibiza has space for yachts up to 150mts. And yes, those berths are fully occupied, and you couldn’t imagine how expensive they are. The revenue from the harbours alone goes as high as 9 figures. And believe me, when you pay several grand for a berth, daily… how much do you spend on restaurants? Clubs? Food? It is insane the amount of money the yachting industry rakes every summer. It is insane. Just keep an eye out for the mega yachts that dock near Ibiza old town. Some of the biggest and most expensive yachts come every year.
All in all, the market is going “up”, not “down”. Ibiza works because the synergies are there. Its like a whole organism. You only have to look at the pattern to see it. Yachts, beach-clubs, high-end hotels… are all connected. San Antonio? It isn’t. We do not have high-end yachting (Es Nautic doesn’t even try…), nor beach-clubs (though it is true that San An barely has any beaches compared to Sant Josep), nor restaurants nor hotels nor… well, you get it.
So, we can’t simply change West End. As it isn’t the means nor the end. You can’t expect to change a simple part of the equation and get the results you expect. The whole town needs to get up to the task if it wants to survive.
My solution? I would be rich If I knew already, don’t you think? :P For starters, people need to understand where is Ibiza going… and try to follow the trend. Cheap beer and drinks isn’t where Ibiza is headed, that is for sure. And of course offering Don Perignon in the West End makes no sense… but bars could start by stocking some Moet Chandon. Who knows! I have seen far many young british couples ask me for a decent (as 50-100€/each) place to have dinner. And to be honest… its not that there are so many of those. Just as there aren’t any brit/irish place in the West End to have a decent gintonic. How is it possible? It makes it impossible for me or my friends to go anywhere near those places… unless we want beer. And even then its less than ideal.
How can we expect people to spend money if we don’t offer them the chance to do so? A good friend of mine stocks Don Perignon in his small “bodega”. Who knows? A couple of bottles do not require that much space in there, yet you allow yourself for an opportunity. Not only that… they also look good :)
So… San An needs a ton of work. But unless the businessman involved get their asses together and start thinking “for the common goal” instead of looking at themselves alone in an ocean full of sharks… the whole economy is screwed. You can’t upgrade the hotels unless the services around it get better as well. Nor we can have high-end yachting if people have nowhere to go and spend some money. Its all a chain!!!!
BTW, what you mention about San An council banning every sort of drinks on the street was a typo. Not sure who is at fault here, but they clarified it. As expected, it is only for alcoholic beverages.
Again thank you as you say changing one part will not solve the problem.
To be fair we know of several hotels / hostels who have invested heavily (Marino, Beach Star, La Torre) and also we hear that the Tanit will be upgraded in the coming years.
As to restaurants there are several lovely ones in the town Tapas being our favourite although again as you quite rightly point out this is the few not the norm as with hotels.
Yachting is there not a plan in place to turn the ferry terminal into a high end set of berths?
I understand the going up not down but does there not need to be a good range to suit all budgets and for all people, many of the young return later in life when they are a little more well off but still need an entry point to the island.
I agree that San Antonio is falling behind other towns and resorts and yes it will only take the will of all to succeed but we see the slow but steady turn around and it has improved in our time of visiting.
My worry is if it done to fast it could fail solve the security, cleaning, beggars first then make the town more appealing and slowly change with discussions within the town, springing decisions on people like moving the market or banning the pr’s seems unfair.
On the banning of drinks yes we are aware of the error but leads me to a frustration I have that the town / council does not have a press / media officer to issue well written information for changes or even for events. For example
The FIESTA OF SANT BARTOMEU the events list was announced very close to the event itself and 95% was only available in Spanish or Catalan however if it was promoted earlier in the year and in English / German / Italian I believe the town would see a more diverse tourist visit for some of its events.
This goes for many events held in the town which we only hear about or get the information a few days before hand which means many who may visit miss out and with cultured events this maybe those who will make the town great again.
As you say its all a chain but breaking the current chain into many pieces may not be the solution either.
I do know that the british/irish community is in love with Tapas (the one in Es Reguero, right?). I can’t say that I’ve been there myself, though. Regarding the hotels /hostels… I get your point, but none compare to the changes we have seen in Platja de’n Bossa. For the record I do not expect to see Ushuaias flourishing everywhere… but we should see every hostel / hotel owner to see what Marino did, and take some notes. Heck, they open the whole year, and I bet they aren’t losing money whilst doing so.
Yachting…The problem with high-end yachting is that… well, there is nothing for high-end people in San An. There simply isn’t. The crews love it, though, because the harbour is part of the town (something unusual, because most of the time the harbours are very far away from everything else… Ibiza being a notable exception), and whether they want to have a beer or shop (for the boat) or anything else, they can simply go walking. So… the problem ain’t the lack of berths, at least no in San An if we are talking about the big ones. Just think about it. You make 7 figures a year (and much more if we talk about the big ones). Where would you go in San An to spend your money? Regarding the plan you mention… pfff I wouldn’t get my hopes up. If it is still unclear whether Club Nautico Ibiza will be allowed to keep operating, and their license finished several years ago… imagine how much in a hurry they are in Palma to decide about San An pier.
About the changes… cheap doesn’t mean old. Or untidy. The West End is terribly cheap… but it is a mess in its current state. I don’t expect the whole island to become a paradise for the rich, since its something that isn’t sustainable. Yes, we need people from every tier… but that doesn’t mean that we have to treat the lower ones as if they were sheep, treating them like crap because “son guiris de mierda” (typical spanish thought). Of course not. Nor should we expect every single one of them to spend little money simply because they are on a cheap hotel. Such assumptions hurt more than fix.
I do completely and wholeheartedly agree on one thing, though: it is incredible that being such a small island the information flows so badly. You either know things with not enough time, or know them after they happened. Yes, that is a huge problem that the authorities need to take care of asap, as it is a waste of time to organize anything when people will not even know you did until its far too late.
We shall see what this summer has in it for us.
Juan,
Again thank you. It does beg the rather tongue in cheek question of why you are not in charge…
And as you said before if us humble commentators on the subject had all the answers we would be rich indeed.
I shall continue to blog about San An and Ibiza over the summer as we shall all see what happens and if the changes make a difference or not, it will be another interesting year that is for sure.
Hi Tristan you going back to this blog why is nobody asking anymore on this subject but now more interested in blogging about sunbeds at ridiculous prices?
Even the man in San An has deemed to not mention anymore on this or has there been no more news related on the subject
Hi there,
We are currently in Ibiza and have spent a lot of time getting locals, businesses and summer workers thoughts.
Most are waiting to see what actually happens as the season gets underway.
Either people will abide by the ban and all bars clubs will play equally or people will ignore the ban and nothing really will change.
It will come down to the authorities and how they enforce the ban.
We will revisit the subject once the situation becomes clear later in the season.
Tristan
Yeah that’s fine as certain blogs said there had been meetings about San An and nothing has been mentioned like it’s a secret but seemed to be reporting on sunbeds in playden bossa actually nothing to do with San An?
Find it hard to believehad a meeting about San for the people of San to talk about that
Thanks though
To Jaun
So all very nicely put and yes you have an opinion but the comment about the West End and about the PRS
Ok fair to say if you work in any busy town or city example Barcelona or London you could come to the same assumption.
There are options for you and as you do it so many times some simples steps maybe to help you on your way a)it’s the West End for 4/5 months going to be busy workers and tourists so maybe head a quicker or easier route b)maybe get on and acknowledge the PR they are a person after all..!!Never know they might be alright c) remember it’s there job and you never know they might actually enjoy it and last of all and you’ll like this one see if they might sell Beefeater in there bar because again you never know they might be able to help you also there bar might be closer to where you’ve come from and then you won’t have to get through the husstle and busstle of the West End that is yes only open for 4/5 months at full for the season and as for the police having enough time if you own a dog at the moment you will be full aware you can’t go anywhere without been stopped so I’m sure on commission with fines they will find time and pleasure in booking illegal Prs
See not that bad
Enjoy
Apologies predictive text ^^^^Juan
I didn’t say anything about the PR’s themselves. For the record, I know plenty of them. But I find them (as in PR, not as in person… since they are doing their jobs after all) to be a huge pain in the ass. Not in the sense that, personally, they are that… nope, but in the sense that since I like to be left alone, and will ask if need something but don’t want to be asked unless I say something first… yes, they bother me.
I am genuinely surprised normally we find after a few days we get left alone once we have said no thank you a few times but do get how it will irritate you having 3 or 4 times daily for several months.
I have emailed you directly, I hope this is ok,
Again thank you for your input.
So another blog turning out to be a scaremongering blog again against Prs and what they do
There a pain in the “ass”
Right then there’s a lot of things that are a pain in the ass there are surely more things on the island than just this issue and no one causes half as much fuss on those issues
And again I question are you are bar owner or Pr’d if not you can simply change your way to get around the West End
Or are you that pigheaded society today is the problem also people don’t talk to each other sometimes barely look up to meet it greet someone
And as for several months I don’t know how and when that works May /October and I think most would say there’s a 8 week period these clubs/bars in the West End make there money
So your assumption of Severval months is way off
Fuss? The pr banning in San An has created absolutely 0 fuss within the spanish community. So I have no idea where you get your ideas from. At the end of the day 100 pr’s account to nothing in the big scheme of things. It’s meaningless once you look at the economy as a whole. Many bars do it because you have to if your neighbour does it.
I love your solution, btw: “If you don’t like it, go somewhere else”. Fine that will fix everything for everybody. Won’t it? Now we fix things by ignoring them? That is precisely the problem San An has, everybody has ignored far too many things for far too long. Instead of giving a shit and trying to do things right. West End has applied the law of the jungle for far too long and, for once, I’m happy that the new Council has what it takes to tame it down. Try, for once, to sleep nearby and see how productive you are when you have to be up at 7:00 am because you have day shift.
Yes, it annoys me to be offered stuff at every single corner. I can speak and ask for the things I want. I do not need to be offered anything all the time. Specially since I know my way around West End better than all the PR’s combined. They do not know that nor they have to, but there is no need for pr’s to even exist in the first place. They don’t add anything to the quality of the service, at least not in West End. You assume that I’m the anti-social type… you couldn’t be more wrong. I dislike West End so much that I have spent no less than 1000 nights there, and I have never worked there. Go figure my “hatred” for it. Simply put: I see for what it is. Not for what I want it to be, not for what it seems to be.
Does make me laugh though I’ve been both a Pr and Bar owner and I don’t get asked for my email
Yet someone who gets so easy annoyed by people talking to him in one of the party capital’s in the world
should come and love whrer I live a village….
Maybe though find someway of blaming the sheep getting in the way
It’s ok though I’d like to thank Nathan and Amanda on such a good article and can tell they’ve ran bars and Pr’d but this is on deaf ears in this blog also
Maybe these people can give you a blog at the end of the season and how things have panned out and if they still there
Me on the other hand won’t be
Brits killed San An should be your next blog ….
Enjoy
To A nnoboddy,
I did actually email you several days ago but had no response….
I have run pubs, hotels and managed at large holiday camps all be it not in Ibiza so I do have some experience of the scene.
I am open to everyone’s opinions and if everyone wants to see a change then everyone has to work together.
I know of several people who had booked to come to Ibiza this year in the hope of working / PR work and with the announcement being made so close to the start of the season they are worried they wont get jobs now and may have wasted many hundreds of euros on flights / accommodation etc which is unfair as they could of gone elsewhere if this decisions had been made in November or December.
As to did the brits kill San Antonio you may have a point but also did bar owners and hotel owners take the money and not reinvest it when times were good.
I would be interested in what you would change to make things right and better for all?
Sorry to hear that one of the Most popular club resort island in the world isn’t what you want to get a good night’s sleep heart blleeds for you and that they annoy you
Maybe they’re right then stop everything because of that?
I’m sure this blog was about seeing the side that they are trying to put some good words about for the job at hand
I think you will see I think it needs sorting out
But annoying and keeping you up all night isn’t really the bars problems I think you’ll find its where maybe you live
There are other places of I’m right so yes I see to say what I see
As far a the “Spanish”
Comment I was refering to posts which were been written about these new rules been announced been causing confusion and published that some blogs were blaming them also for certain points I was in bumusment that most of these English bar people have bought some of this on themselves and didn’t want this going public about these annocements
Like I said tough it’s in Mix Mag this week so can imagine the little story here won’t be kept just amongst the locals
Also didn’t know if you were aware it’s not here ago have these ideas it’s a group from Barcelona who have put the 13 year project together
Surely this is laughable people emplimenting these ideas aren’t even from the island
Does this make sense good hold on I’ll go to Valencia and tell them how to run things…
Sounds like if this doesn’t go right the people here can blame someonelse.
If you can say honestly it won’t change anything for you then well done….
But may be think on others it will effect I think you’ll find winter 2016 many English/Scots/Irish will not be there and that’s saw
This all might mean nothing anyways
JUNE 23RD
LET’S HOPE BREXIT DOSENT HAPPEN
OR YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE this will not be the only problem
And please don’t get you caculator out with figures on this issue I imagine it won’t be good
Anyway the people sat round the square table will make the decisions
It’s sad though I remember when people got on
#sadtimes2016
Some people are really switched on….I’m a great believer if you cars sell cars,if you sit in an office,carry on sitting in the office if youve not worked inthis situation then….
EXACTLY leave it to the people that have surely.. As i was saying about switched on teaming up with a online ticket agency and they are saying not to share the post
Oh well you won’t miss the Pr on the strip ?
Every little helps I suppose