San Antonio Council
San Antonio Council have today announced it has suspended dynamic advertising including commercial parades, ticket selling and PR’s on the streets of San Antonio for 2016.
The suspension comes after several summers of complaints from not only tourists who feel they are being harassed in public spaces but also from businesses in the area who are tired of those visiting San Antonio being urged to attend bars, boat parties and club nights elsewhere.
There is also the environmental impact from the endless amount of dropped leaflets and flyers which unfortunately can make the streets look untidy to tourists and residents alike.
A new ordnance (by law) is to be drawn up to regulate this activity, however no date has been given to when this will be in force and the suspension will remain until then.
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The downside is, of course, many summer workers rely on selling tickets and PR work on the streets to make a living while they enjoy an amazing summer on the island, but with plenty of jobs on offer in bars, restaurants and clubs we don’t see anyone missing out.
The West End San Antonio Ibiza
We believe this is a great move by the council and tickets will still be freely available at outlets and bars across San Antonio, although we always feel buying them in advance of your trip is the best way to go. Check out our ticket guide here.
It should improve the free movement of people without harassment especially along the waterfront and through the West End, improve the look of the town with a lot less litter and give the local bars and clubs a fairer footing when it comes to attracting customers.
It is also worthy of note that Ibiza Town has also banned this type of activity in the Port of Ibiza for 2016 as reported here.
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When we pay the town hall 1000’s of euros for licences.. can’t see the happening unless you mean the illegal ones.
Hi Guy,
As we have understood it The mayor has signed a decree suspending all licenses and renewals for this year for dynamic advertising. The story is now being reported elsewhere in the Ibiza press as such.
Sorry
Tristan
This is not a good thing and smacks of Spains Fascist past. No surprise considering Ibiza now has a PP [Conservative] corrupt government.
Why people like you would support this is bizarre.
Are they going to ban those intimidating Africans who try to put a bracelet on your wrist and demand money along the seafront ?
Hi Trevor,
We live in hope and they do get dealt with by the police but its not often enough to put them off sadly.
Tristan
Its about time they put a stop to the looky looky men and woman… Terrorising tourists on the streets.. In bars and around there pools… Freinds of mine with a 5 year old in a pushchair… ‘do you wanna buy charlie.. Hash or pills… Really as if familys wanna be hearing this every 5 minutes…
Hi Karl,
I completely agree and although we have seen them searched and kicked out of town for 24hrs on a regular basis it doesn’t seem to put them off, although it has to be said most major tourist spots across Europe now suffer the same problems sadly.
Tristan
“but with plenty of jobs on offer in bars, restaurants and clubs we don’t see anyone missing out.”
This actually made me laugh… How does cutting back on PR’s all of a sudden create MORE work for those looking for jobs to suddenly be employed in another capacity?
This could destroy San Antonio as we know it, certainly the worker vibe. This will result in millions of lost revenue in the town. 100’s of legal PR’s will be without a job meaning they will not rent apartments, they won’t be drinking in the bars, eating in the restaurants, paying for taxi’s, shopping in the supermarkets etc… We all know that workers don’t every leave the island with more than they came, so thats at least €5,000 per person that is no longer in the San Antonio system as there is no longer employment for them. On top of this, the income from the legal PR’s in the form of PR license jackets runs into the 100’s of thousands and this will no longer be in the town hall’s pockets to pay for everything from street lights and bins, to policing and schools… All in all, this simple throw away “oh lets ban PR’s for the summer” idea could seriously damage the town beyond repair.
I am NOT in agreement with the huge number of ILLEGAL Pr’s who are the ones that are usually at fault for the majority of the problems caused, but thats why these should be tackled first and if then there is still an issue with the licensed, contracted and preciously legal PR’s then make small changes like, reduce the number of jackets by 25%, then another 25% the next year until each bar can only have 1 jacket, and then none. But a straight ban is just ridiculous.
How does the local town council plan on enforcing all this? Seeing a police officer in the west end last year was like discovering rocking horse shit, except rarer. So we are expected to believe that, despite there now being an economic black hole in the loss of revenue from PR licenses, there will be MORE police to enforce this “NO PR” rule?? Sounds unlikely.
And as for improving the experience of the tourists which of these would you rather have as an inevitable experience of your holiday:
1. Be offered 50 times a night to buy sunglasses, and then coke/charlie/pills from a totally unlicensed, illegal “lookie lookie” bringing nothing into the system and only taking out?
2. Be offered “I suck you” “blow job” “hello my husband, sucky sucky” or the classic “wanna fuck” innumerable times a night by the west end sengalese prostitutes?
3. Be targeted by morrocan and romanian pickpocket gangs who will rob your phone, wallet and anything else you have and then sell that to the lookie lookie to then sell on?
Or:
4. Be offered some cheap drinks at a bar by a PR.
I don’t think anyone would think that number 4 on this list is the most offensive, and yet its the one that is getting cracked down on before the others… It makes no sense. If San Antonio we an injured person, its like we are being told that they are treating the sprained ankle before the fractured skull…
San Antonio is at a cross roads and changes need to happen, but this is the wrong change at the wrong time. We could have a town hall that implements real positive change with long term benefits, but in the short term this could be crippling to a number of venues and the town in general and I don’t think they really understand what they are doing with this.
Will it be all talk and no trousers or will this actually be strongly enforced? We’ll have to wait and see.
Hi Nathan,
My deepest thanks for taking the time to reply to the article.
My point on the jobs was a lot of people who stay in San An are tempted out of San An on a daily basis by PR’s and the like from elsewhere so by staying within the town there would be more tourists to serve, however I completely understand and get your point of view on this and also with the other points you make.
Enforcement is a huge question which I don’t think anyone has an answer to, we have heard that their will be more police in San An this year but as to numbers times months we have yet to find out.
Also another point is, this is the second major change made by the council which has been sprung on people with no warning or consultation (moving of the market being the other) which is not the way to make changes or improvements their should be lengthy discussions and consultations with all involved prior to decisions like this being made.
Again thanks you for the reply and as you say time will tell what actually happens this year.
Tristan
Martins”shaggy”
reply. There are too many “workers”
Is he for real so he’s saying he only wants so many workers in San An
Who does he think his is?
How is this guy
“Man In San An”
And hes he liked does his so called friends on the island know this how he speaks ?
Also says”The bars only have themselves to blame for this situation although I think the cull on street parades is wrong as they created a vibrancy and edge to proceedings.
Yeah can definaltly tell what sort of people he wants in San An
Your right a perfect 10 parade girl ?
http://maninsanan.com/2016/03/24/san-antonio-bans/
I’ve read a lot of blogs and you seem to know what’s going on here
I questioned this Martin person who has run a blog on what he thinks and seems never to of ran or bar or pr’d but seems something not right with his answers
Martin Makepeacesays:
March 24, 2016 at 8:25 pm
“San Antonio is reliant on young workers community” – it’s welcome but not reliant.
And this is this person you have as a spokes person?Really!!
So I thought I’d look into this guy on Facebook he’s well not what expected for sure but he doesn’t look like the guy that has done a days work in that West End that’s why I questioned his replies in his blog,then I find out he was a sponserer for a “workers party”
Really what one for the over 40’s
Hypocrite comes to mind and I’ve mentioned I’m my reply to him that there’s only a few selective bars seemed to be against the whole promotional way of things apart from it could do with better controlling for what i can see I’m people’s views
Anyway I know for sure
I’m young find this offensive and feel that Ibiza is not the place for me this season
Thank you for listening hope someone will tell him probably not but enjoy your summer
Ann
http://maninsanan.com/2016/03/24/san-antonio-bans/
I’ve read a lot of blogs and you seem to know what’s going on here
I questioned this Martin person who has run a blog on what he thinks and seems never to of ran or bar or pr’d but seems something not right with his answers
Martin Makepeacesays:
March 24, 2016 at 8:25 pm
“San Antonio is reliant on young workers community” – it’s welcome but not reliant.
And this is this person you have as a spokes person?Really!!
So I thought I’d look into this guy on Facebook he’s well not what expected for sure but he doesn’t look like the guy that has done a days work in that West End that’s why I questioned his replies in his blog,then I find out he was a sponserer for a “workers party”
Really what one for the over 40’s
Hypocrite comes to mind and I’ve mentioned I’m my reply to him that there’s only a few selective bars seemed to be against the whole promotional way of things apart from it could do with better controlling for what i can see I’m people’s views
Anyway I know for sure
I’m young find this offensive and feel that Ibiza is not the place for me this season
Thank you for listening hope someone will tell him probably not but enjoy your summer
Ann
Message i sent to “San An Man”
Again Martin or Shaggy whoever doesn’t surprise me you don’t mind a.parade.
But here goes I had to have 3 interviews last season to get my job and yes I saw alot in and around the place you choose to say you live in and yes I’ll tell you because you can’t tell me .
Certain places hated me because I got top sales and we seemed to be busy I’m not coming back this season because of this reason and of because there’s no jobs to offer oh wait certain bars complaining
Still miss my point your comments are on here say on your behalf and still not adding up and You maybe in your office job that
You haven’t Pr’d or worked in the West End and you now saying that your workers party you only want a certain standard of people* laughable
We all can’t be at your standard of life and your blog for staying in the EU
*Applause Bravo
Do you really think the X amount of workers are going to vote to Stay In campaign for the likes of you
Let’s say the UK is not a happy place at the moment you wouldn’t know with your lifestyle
People will vote out and myself so enjoy getting off on blogs and your vision of a perfect person,with a perfect body and yes VIP parade girl style town
I will keep in touch though because I do laugh at some of the old people that need to maybe draw there pensions as bosses and maybe do somethingelse out because after what I saw apart from pointing at people that couldn’t even do my job I did feel sorry for them in someways
Ann
Martins”shaggy”
reply. There are too many “workers”
Is he for real so he’s saying he only wants so many workers in San An
Who does he think his is?
How is this guy
“Man In San An”
And hes he liked does his so called friends on the island know this how he speaks ?
Also says”The bars only have themselves to blame for this situation although I think the cull on street parades is wrong as they created a vibrancy and edge to proceedings.
Yeah can definaltly tell what sort of people he wants in San An
Your right a perfect 10 parade girl ?
I wanted to go to San Antonio to work for the whole summer this year, 2 years ago I worked there as a PR, and spent quite a bit of money 5K+.
After reading your article I definitely wont go there this year. That staff on the street gave the vibe of the city, the dancing, smiling, chatting up people and all that. San Antonio is finished. Turistically and financially it will have very serious consequences
Once again the town halls, miss the point and hurt the small businesses. What harm does it do to have a legal pr in front of you business promoting it and on top of it they loose the 1000 euro licence fee. do they think that this will stop the prs I mean its always been elegal to sell tickets on the streets or beaches etc but how many 1000’s of elegal ticket sellers are there every summer. All this will do is force the law abiding business owner to break the law by hiring elegal prs or watch his earnings drop as the venues who use the elegal workers steal his clients often from inside his own venue. I am all for cleaning up the elegal prs ticket sellers looky looky men, prostitutes and drug dealers but that would actually take some real work, planning or thought, from the elected officials and not just a quick legislative change to appear as if they are dealing with the issue.
Agree alotof owners should be more concerned whathimgoing on in there toilets rather than a pr doing there workin
http://maninsanan.com/2016/03/24/san-antonio-bans/
I’ve read a lot of blogs and you seem to know what’s going on here
I questioned this Martin person who has run a blog on what he thinks and seems never to of ran or bar or pr’d but seems something not right with his answers
Martin Makepeacesays:
March 24, 2016 at 8:25 pm
“San Antonio is reliant on young workers community” – it’s welcome but not reliant.
And this is this person you have as a spokes person?Really!!
So I thought I’d look into this guy on Facebook he’s well not what expected for sure but he doesn’t look like the guy that has done a days work in that West End that’s why I questioned his replies in his blog,then I find out he was a sponserer for a “workers party”
Really what one for the over 40’s
Hypocrite comes to mind and I’ve mentioned I’m my reply to him that there’s only a few selective bars seemed to be against the whole promotional way of things apart from it could do with better controlling for what i can see I’m people’s views
Anyway I know for sure
I’m young find this offensive and feel that Ibiza is not the place for me this season
Thank you for listening hope someone will tell him probably not but enjoy your summer
Ann
Message i sent
“San An Man”
Again Martin or Shaggy whoever doesn’t surprise me you don’t mind a.parade.
But here goes I had to have 3 interviews last season to get my job and yes I saw alot in and around the place you choose to say you live in and yes I’ll tell you because you can’t tell me .
Certain places hated me because I got top sales and we seemed to be busy I’m not coming back this season because of this reason and of because there’s no jobs to offer oh wait certain bars complaining
Still miss my point your comments are on here say on your behalf and still not adding up
You haven’t Pr’d or worked in the West End and you now saying that your workers party you only want a certain standard of people* laughable
We all can’t be at your standard of life and your blog for staying in the EU
*Applause Bravo
Do you really think the X amount of workers are going to vote to Stay In campaign for the likes of you
Let’s say the UK is not a happy place at the moment you wouldn’t know with your lifestyle
People will vote out and myself so enjoy getting off on blogs and your vision of a perfect person,with a perfect body and yes VIP parade girl style town
I will keep in touch though because I do laugh at some of the old people that need to maybe draw there pensions and maybe do somethingelse out because after what I saw apart from pointing at people that couldn’t even do my job I did feel sorry for them in someways
Ann
Back stabbers the lot of them,faces many of the owners have two.
We are supposed to be supporting each other to stay in Europe,but typical Brits have turned this place into the UK and everyone’s an MP!! NO!!
Are you REALLY!!
NO you have a Boss like anyonelse or you lease the property
I do sort of hope now more that ever the Brits pull out of the UK then I imagine 100,000’s will be lost!!
Plain and simple selfishness and greed..
No one wants to help each other everyone’s for themselves which there’s no harm in that it’s business.
BUT at least try and help the buisnesses around you rather than fine them or kick the shit out of them!!
Commitee for Brits have you ever heard anything so Racist or they forgotten they live in Spain pardon the pun
Will this also mean that all boat party’s that take people out of San An are counted in also holiday companies that take people to bars or is that OK!!
Hope San An can make Euros by selling coffee to 60 year old because they’ve let the goverment win this battle opened tin of worms comes to mind
How about re-investment in San Antonio so nobody wants to leave. San Antonio got left behind 4 years ago. If pr’s had something good to promote in San Antonio then I’m sure they would promote it. Eden and Es paradise need strenghaning massively – west end needs updating and a new club needs to be built.
YAWN…???
Lets not beat about the bush here, the island basically runs on illicit goings on…
People will PR regardless of wether it is made illegal or not. There are many other activities that take place on the island that are also illegal and continue to thrive year after year under the half closed, lazy eye of the under staffed police forces and authorities of the Island.
For 4 months of the year Ibiza morphs into Europes epicenter of greed and desperation, where practically anything can and will be done to ensure survival through the summer.
The word Illegal itself floats around the air but is barely respected by any means, for example in this case, a good days PRing can mean the difference in someone going home to the UK, or getting by on the Island for another few days.
A high number of summer workers rely on this kind of work to fund their summer here.
The majority of businesses depend on this for survival, especially the smaller independant businesses who can not muster the finances to front huge advertising campaigns all summer.
I strongly believe that PRing outside your own venue should not be an issue, it is standard practice not only in San Antonio but around the globe, however having huge street teams of vendors and prs wandering San An promoting businesses elsewhere on the Island is something that needs to be looked at and controlled better.
It is laughable though to think this law will be respected. People will take the risk to PR the same as they take the risk to vend illegally on the streets, to open businesses outwith their regulated hours, to taxi illegally, to doctor tax returns illegally etc etc etc, the list goes endlessly on.
Money talks and good PR’s can talk better than anyone.
Exactly the illegal ticket teams like Detroit and the clowns from kiosk will carry on business as usual as they don’t give a flying fuck about the law. This will only effect the legit businesses like the bars and clubs are happy to pay for the jackets which might I add contributes to the local economy. This just helps the illegal sellers. #fuckwits
http://maninsanan.com/2016/03/24/san-antonio-bans/
I’ve read a lot of blogs and you seem to know what’s going on here
I questioned this Martin person who has run a blog on what he thinks and seems never to of ran or bar or pr’d but seems something not right with his answers
Martin Makepeacesays:
March 24, 2016 at 8:25 pm
“San Antonio is reliant on young workers community” – it’s welcome but not reliant.
And this is this person you have as a spokes person?Really!!
So I thought I’d look into this guy on Facebook he’s well not what expected for sure but he doesn’t look like the guy that has done a days work in that West End that’s why I questioned his replies in his blog,then I find out he was a sponserer for a “workers party”
Really what one for the over 40’s
Hypocrite comes to mind and I’ve mentioned I’m my reply to him that there’s only a few selective bars seemed to be against the whole promotional way of things apart from it could do with better controlling for what i can see I’m people’s views
Anyway I know for sure
I’m young find this offensive and feel that Ibiza is not the place for me this season
Thank you for listening hope someone will tell him probably not but enjoy your summer
Ann
Message i sent
“SAN AN MAN”Again Martin or Shaggy whoever doesn’t surprise me you don’t mind a.parade.
But here goes I had to have 3 interviews last season to get my job and yes I saw alot in and around the place you choose to say you live in and yes I’ll tell you because you can’t tell me .
Certain places hated me because I got top sales and we seemed to be busy I’m not coming back this season because of this reason and of because there’s no jobs to offer oh wait certain bars complaining
Still miss my point your comments are on here say on your behalf and still not adding up
You haven’t Pr’d or worked in the West End and you now saying that your workers party you only want a certain standard of people* laughable
We all can’t be at your standard of life and your blog for staying in the EU
*Applause Bravo
Do you really think the X amount of workers are going to vote to Stay In campaign for the likes of you
Let’s say the UK is not a happy place at the moment you wouldn’t know with your lifestyle
People will vote out and myself so enjoy getting off on blogs and your vision of a perfect person,with a perfect body and yes VIP parade girl style town
I will keep in touch though because I do laugh at some of the old people that need to maybe draw there pensions and maybe do somethingelse out because after what I saw apart from pointing at people that couldn’t even do my job I did feel sorry for them in someways
Ann
This is absolutely ludicrous. With no PR’s, the bars will be no where near as full, meaning even less jobs for bar staff & waiters / waitresses. Ibiza is renowned for being the clubbing capital of the world, it draws 100’s of thousands of tourists in every summer from all around the globe. People who come to San Antonio know the vibrant atmosphere that comes with it. Tightening the reins too much will see people turning their back on this magic island soon, you can’t fix what is not broken. With out this club culture, booming British tourists filling the bars, restaurants, clubs and beaches, Ibiza will soon be a sinking ship. If you loose the workers, you will quickly loose the tourists, and once Ibiza is left behind, it will be too late to pick it back up. Invest in San Antonio, loose the prostitites, sun glasses selling Africans and the pick pockets, don’t loose the workers who contribute to the local evening religiously for 5/6 months.
We’ll said General word is only a certain bars complaining and are rejoicing at the moment
Believe it or not its not about prs thats a smoke screen its all about drinks deals so yeah all about the money!!
As usual!!It’s gone back to the school days my bars busier than yours
Well sorting of hoping the June vote in June here in the UK votes out then there all screwed
Hypocrites the lot of them 99.9% as bosses started as a Pr and push there peer pressure more than anyone to get people in there bars
Now they don’t want that anymore it seems
Rather stand on the door even more so now and do nothing
Oh well the offices will be busy now maybe they’ll be used for the right reasons?
This is the message i sent Martin Makepeace http://www.maninsanan.com
Thanyou for replying there seems to be very one sided opinion on your replies,hence my questioning.
I’m finding this hard to come to as a)You’ve never owned a bar or been a Pr.
Which makes me question more on what else is been and not been told
As no one has gone to town on club price drinks €20 euros +
But the so called pre party West End cultral for 20+years are been told what drinks can be offerered sounds a bit fishy to me but then those bars seem to be the only ones condeming Prs
in blogs
Knowing many of them back in the day as a Pr and that was how they started
Hypocrisy I say
It’s a shame maybe your next blog should be about saving the Pr oh no you’re probably no allowed to
I was coming back to Ibiza this season but you know something what’s the point seems to be the pretty gameover in respect in certain bars want to kill the trend that put them in there fancy cars and holidays and now they want the
Maybe they should move on
Got to be honest was going to vote to stay in the EU now
Hope some get what they deserve OUT vote
Maybe Brits killed San An Off can be your next blog
Well you saying this I’ve looked it this and yes some if the main stream bars/ themed are trying to have the big say on this situation as they don’t need/want PRS or drinks deals
Themed bars don’t want them so screw everyonelse
Plot thickens seems that your some of your themed bars on the main strip don’t want PRS or drinks deals
So basically screw everyonelse attitude
Nice!
My message to” San An Man”
Again Martin or Shaggy whoever doesn’t surprise me you don’t mind a.parade.
But here goes I had to have 3 interviews last season to get my job and yes I saw alot in and around the place you choose to say you live in and yes I’ll tell you because you can’t tell me .
Certain places hated me because I got top sales and we seemed to be busy I’m not coming back this season because of this reason and of because there’s no jobs to offer oh wait certain bars complaining
Still miss my point your comments are on here say on your behalf and still not adding up
You haven’t Pr’d or worked in the West End and you now saying that your workers party you only want a certain standard of people* laughable
We all can’t be at your standard of life and your blog for staying in the EU
*Applause Bravo
Do you really think the X amount of workers are going to vote to Stay In campaign for the likes of you
Let’s say the UK is not a happy place at the moment you wouldn’t know with your lifestyle
People will vote out and myself so enjoy getting off on blogs and your vision of a perfect person,with a perfect body and yes VIP parade girl style town
I will keep in touch though because I do laugh at some of the old people that need to maybe draw there pensions and maybe do somethingelse out because after what I saw apart from pointing at people that couldn’t even do my job I did feel sorry for them in someways
Ann
Martins”shaggy”
reply. The bars only have themselves to blame for this situation although I think the cull on street parades is wrong as they created a vibrancy and edge to proceedings.
Yeah can definaltly tell what sort of people he wants in San An
Your right a perfect 10 parade girl ?
Also on “Man In San”
Replies
There are probably too many ‘workers’
Wow best comment you really
And you have bar owners as friends how?
And you sponser a workers party are you ok?
Your blogs are in all the upper class bars around San An you forgot the smaller ones in town
Would love to see this on a workers group page
Please tell me this guy isn’t the voice of San An if so REALLY
Is no one going to write a blog in the good PRs????
We shall have a follow up blog in a few weeks time once we have had chance to gauge as many opinions as possible on the changes.
A few weeks this press is damaging every share it gets
Every blog is saying the samething we can all right a blog on things that are wrong in the world
Let’s show we can get and put things right
Before get uncontrollable and we may aswell vote out on the 23rd June
The decision to suspend Pr’s street ticket sellers and parades was made by San Antonio council and an English version of their press release can be found here
https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.santantoni.net%2FportalSanAntoni%2FRecursosWeb%2FDOCUMENTOS%2F1%2F0_3057_1.pdf&edit-text=&act=url
The reasons given for the suspension are as follows
a) Its special impact on the environment. b) Its ostensible influence on the right of citizens to freedom of movement along streets and public spaces. c) Its impact on the right to rest and leisure without discomfort. d) The impact on the tourism image because of the constant harassment of advertising agents. e) Its impact, especially intense in tourist areas. f) its impact on specific issues relating to public order.
Every news outlet, blog will cover this as it is presented which is San Antonio council are making changes this year as a step towards improving its image and appeal to a wider tourist market.
The reality of this decision unless they are to provide a system to actually enforce the changes which at present is very unclear then in all likely hood very little will change apart from their maybe a few more illegal Pr’s and Ticket sellers.
However until the season gets under way, the effect of the decision to the town and what enforcement is put in place no one really knows and we are unable to comment until everyone, bar owners, workers, tourists speak to us to tell us how it is.
The wider picture is whether we or anyone else likes it those in charge in San Antonio IE the council are trying to change its image and the tourists it attracts and to make the town a better place for all and this is just one of many steps they have and will be undertaking in the months and years to come. We accept that many may not like the changes and ultimately it may even destroy the town as Nathan stated above but until the season starts no one really knows the impact it will have.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153691685651026&id=12120996025
Mix Mag now ??
We have done a follow up to this article: Is Banning Legal PR’s in San Antonio a Costly Mistake
http://thewhiteisle.co.uk/banning-prs-san-antonio-costly-mistake/
We welcome your thoughts and opinions.
The need to stamp down on the many Lucky Lucky men and women , who are constantly hassling tourist day and night . I love Ibiza but I will not be coming back until this huge problem is sorted . Some how I think the want do anything to them though ?
So then people and peer pressure and scare mongreling come to mind.
Still won’t change my mind this might be law but there are a good 99.5% carrying on regardless and seems to be working because they are still seeing it controlled is making a difference 2or so people on there terrace welcoming the normal average costumer is proving to be a winner in some people’s eyes
and some still fit not offering this are still pulling a face
Surely there can be an agreement between the owners to go the town hall and show that people can be adult about this issue
No doubt if true to record that they don’t want San An anymore as a West End then maybe it will be in deaf ears but surely someone can maybe show not all bar managers want this and want to work something out
As time approaches can someone remind me before it happens
How do club reps not get a bad name as they well packages for€ 240+each person to walk them around the West End into bars which is surely free
Also sometimes walking 50/80/100+ around singing and chanting but this is ok
Right?
But
you can’t have a pr outside your bar offering a cheekey 241 on your own doorstep with been in every blog
Surely this is pr ing what they do it does know one know